tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7355407830694029222.post4756441473655316878..comments2023-10-23T12:09:24.592-07:00Comments on Timely-Atlas-Comics: GIRL COMICS #1-12 (Oct/49 - Jan/52)Doc V.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06815470072568462626noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7355407830694029222.post-50716844333747795642014-02-08T19:16:23.089-08:002014-02-08T19:16:23.089-08:00Ok Jim, I'm back and ready to address this pos...Ok Jim, I'm back and ready to address this post from Jan 10th! <br /><br />Issue #1: Glad you agree on the Jerry Fasano, Jim. On the Bill Williams, that's probably who I meant to consider as an additional guess but I'm still mixing up Williams and Streeter.<br /><br />Issue #2: Sam Cooper is a good guess. The only Rule in the story is on page 6, the woman's face in panels 2 and 4, and I'm sticking by it! Especially panel 2!<br /><br />Issue #3: I knew it was Brown but wasn't sure if he was solo. On #7164 Hing is certainly a great consideration, Jack Kamen was a wild guess and not meant to be taken too literally. I'm gonna hold to that Shores panel 5 and what is also Rule's hand in possibly both but certainly in panel 6. I know you don't like single panel ID's but I'm imagining a busy bullpen assembly line with any and all occasionally pitching in. On #7083 the Becker I think I'm seeing is the inking. And I'll add I'm guessing but look at those male faces.On #7252 my evidence just points in the direction. I won't say I'm 100% positive. <br /><br />Issue #4: On #6877 I agree (about the likelihood of Roth being submerged). I still think I'm seeing the possibility of Sitton in this story. This was one I meant to send him but never did. To me it looks Sitton-y/Roth-y. Beyond that I have no other guess. On #7268 You're right! I'm taking Sekowsky out of that splash. I don't have any other ideas. Brown's ultra-long arms we saw in #3's #7102 seems to be a pattern. And you're also right that there's this persistent thing I keep seeing that pulls me into Gene Colan's pencils. And I can't put my finger on it! But I agree with you that I'm probably out of my head here! (not the first time!)<br /><br />Issue #5 cover: What am I missing here? Where are those initials, Jim? On #7579, well it's a guess. Looking at again now, it's all I have.<br /><br />Issue #6: On #7723, I didn't either. It took Nick Caputo to set me right. He ID'd that story in Strange Tales #1 (the one the splash was used as the cover) as Esposito when he was over here one time when he asked me if there were any stories in the Masterworks of #1-10 that I couldn't ID. I thought "hmm...Esposito?", and pulled out a handful of signed concurrent Esposito stories from other Atlas issues. The ST #1 story lined up very nicely! The splash may not be Esposito or possibly Burgos re-working the original splash.On #7724, thanks for the ID! On #7694 Tartag's a guess. Recall that I have the world's largest Tartaglione binder!!!! (over 500 pages!)<br /><br />Issue #9 On #8310 Yes! I couldn't get her to pop into my head! Lots of stories all around this time in Junior Miss, Miss America, True Secrets, etc!! And guess what, I just checked my Nina Albright file and along with several others, "this" story is photocopied in there!!!!! And she's in my database already. She wasn't in my paper records for some reason. #8253 Never would have guessed this is Chic Stone. I don't see it.<br /><br />Issue #12: #9227, this one looks more like Chic Stone than the other one, Jim. The other reminds me so much of Sol Brodsky.Doc V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06815470072568462626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7355407830694029222.post-46326426796571186132014-01-10T21:01:38.226-08:002014-01-10T21:01:38.226-08:00The first panel in 5402 certainly looks like the ...The first panel in 5402 certainly looks like the Fasano that I'm familiar with. Not that I would have guessed it based on the rest of the page, as I'm only familiar with his humor work. Looking at the last two panes of 5547, I agree with Jim V that it seems to be Bill Williams. However I couldn't be more sure without seeing another page or so. Another artist known mostly for his humor work. Great job with these IDs. SangorShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650888644317638942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7355407830694029222.post-82478827975339921932014-01-10T10:15:28.075-08:002014-01-10T10:15:28.075-08:00Okay, Michael, you asked for some input. Here'...Okay, Michael, you asked for some input. Here's mine:<br /><br />Girl #1 agree that #5402 "Death be My Destiny!" is Jerry Fasano<br /> I think #5547 "I Lost My Heart" is Bill Williams. It's not Streeter<br />Girl #2 it might be Sam Cooper? on #6082 "I Chose Love" (no Rule, that I can see)<br />Girl #3 #7102 "I Loved a He-Man" is all Bob Brown<br /> #7164 "Second Fiddle" - Other than Maneely splash, I see none of your guesses. Chu Hing?<br /> #7083 "Designing Female" - ? & Becker (very interesting and chic penciller - TOO chic, I think, for it to be Mike Becker.)<br /> #7252 "Once in a Love-Time". I'll take your word for it being Sitton & Everett<br />Girl #4 #7275 "Fool's Paradise". Agree, many PAGES are pure Klein!<br /> #6877 "Strictly Small Time!" I see Roth in the two large splash figures, but he's submerged if he's present in the rest of the story. You're right to compare this with the Venus art. Same style - reminds me so much of an under control Ogden Whitney!<br /> #7268 "Mother Knows Best!" And here we're going to really DISAGREE. This is not Sekowsky, not Rule, not Colan. Yer OUT!<br /> Bob Brown & ? splash, Walsh?? maybe. I know Colan pretty well, too, Michael, and I think you've latched onto some part of this art that corresponds with some aspect of Colan's style. But this is missing the core values of Colan's layout and structure, IMHO.<br />Girl #5 could cover be Bourgos ("Hotel CBD")<br /> #7579 "Conflict" I don't remember what Lacava looks like, but this doesn't seem quite right. I just don't know.<br />Girl #6 #7723 "The Horns" Could this be Marty Elkin? I've never had a good grasp on Esposito.<br /> #7724 "Turning Point" I DO have a good grasp on Ace stalwart Ken Rice. This is he.<br /> #7694 "Murderer's Daughters" Def. Rosen, but I don't see Tartaglione. FWIW.<br />Girl #7 #7828 "They Called me A Spy" This is more like what I remember Bill LaCava looking like.<br />Girl #9 #8310 "One is Guilty" is Nina Albright, no Rule!<br /> #8253 "Downfall" - what you see is Chic Stone<br />Girl #10 - You're more certain of Sekowsky on the cover than I am.<br /> #8729 "The Outsider" - I don't know either.<br />Girl #11 #8499 "Unwanted!" is definitely Bill Savage<br />Girl #12 #9227 "Aftermath!" is Chic Stone again<br /><br />Peace, Jim (|:{><br />Jim Vadeboncoeur, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05202049887034952088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7355407830694029222.post-16864217610188811462014-01-08T00:37:20.617-08:002014-01-08T00:37:20.617-08:00Mike,
My first post appears to have drifted into ...Mike,<br /><br />My first post appears to have drifted into the ether, so I'll have to reconstruct my comments again! You've produced another thoroughly informative post and I'll add a few comments and observations.<br /><br /># 3: "I Loved a He-Man" It looks like the face of the man and the figure may be drawn by two different artists. The musculature has a Kirbyish look that might be Syd Shores, although I'm wondering if the figures of the man and woman may be swipes from a Simon-Kirby Romance comic. Is there perhaps some Buscema or Shores in the second panel? <br /><br />"Second Fiddle" I believe you're right about Shores/Rule in the panels you cited.<br /><br />"Once in a Lifetime" Everett inking and lettering certainly, and I'm in agreement that the pencils are likely by Sitton. The faces of the men and women have an un-Everett look, particularly the man with the blue hair. <br /><br /># 4: "Strictly Small Time" Perhaps Roth drew the bottom panels as well. The pose of the girl with her hand by her face is very Roth like.<br /><br />"Mother Knows Best" Another possible Roth? The woman in the yellow coat makes me suspect Roth's input. I admit I'm hard-pressed to see any sign of Colan on the page you published, but I have confidence that you're correct.<br /><br />The cover to # 5, as well as some of the other unknown cover artists, may have input by Sol Brodsky, perhaps overpowered by a strong inker. Nothing definite I can point to, just a feeling I have in the look of the figures. <br /><br />"Horns" Yep, I agree on Esposito. His wispy line is evident.<br /><br /># 8- I think you're correct on your Sekowsky cover ID's. <br /><br />"The Lonely One" Possible Esposito pencils and/or inks in this story?<br /><br />#9: "One is Guilty" I may be way off base here, but I've learned never to ignore hunches, so I'll throw it out to you. Is there some Everett on this page? Take a look at the two women in the splash without looking at their faces. Do you notice Everett's line on the clothing and figures? Also the layout and the way the figures are posed in panel two. Could this be Everett/Rule?<br /><br />"Downfall": Looking this over my first thought was Chic Stone, particularly the inking of the eyes, faces and hair in panels 2-3. I see a distinctive line that reminds me of Stone's work. Is that possible?<br /><br /># 10- is the man's face on the cover inked by Rule?<br /><br />"Outsider": The faces of the characters in the bottom panels make me question the possibility of Carl Burgos' pencils.<br /><br /># 11: "Unwanted" The faces and poses of the characters in the background splash have a very familiar look. Joe Certa comes to mind.<br /><br /># 12: "Aftermath": This is another page that has a Chic Stone feel, in either pencils and/or inks. <br /><br />I pretty much agree with you on all your other identifications. I look forward to comments by other Timely-Atlas mavens. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.com